What are the global implications of Israel’s occupation? This panel, featuring journalists, activists, and academics, examines the humanitarian crisis and the challenges to achieving lasting peace. The discussion highlights insights from TRT World’s documentary “Holy Redemption,” revealing the harsh realities faced in Palestine.

via Reddit.comr/changemyview … Go to changemyview .. r/changemyview … • 2 yr. ago HuangHuaYu49 1∆CMV: Jews have no legitimate claim to the land of modern day Israel. A two-state solution is already a major concession made by the Palestinians. Delta(s) from OP After reading about the Israel-Palestine conflict, I was shocked at how rarely people point out the flawed logic behind pro-Israel arguments. I do not believe Jews have a meaningful claim to the land of Israel, and a “Jewish state” should have never been established in the region. I will be debunking common arguments for a Jewish state of Israel below, and will gladly respond to any others that are brought up to this post.The Jews deserve a homeland because centuries of history have shown their safety is never guaranteed in non-Jewish countries.I agree, Jews have every right to establish their own country so they do not have to worry about being a persecuted minority. However, Jews do not have a right to establish a Jewish state over a region that is already inhabited by non-Jewish people. If the principal concern is establishing a country where Jews can be safe, why does it have to be established in a region that is majority Muslim? There are other regions of the world with unoccupied land, but Jews insist their nation be established over the historic land of Israel. In this case, the “Jews just want a homeland” is a red herring to avoid the issue of a Jewish state being established over a region occupied by Arabs for centuries.2) Jews legally bought land in Palestine in the 19th and 20th centuries.Yes, Jews legally bought land during both the Ottoman and British administration of the region. However, these were regarding private ownership of the land, which is different from sovereignty of the land. Many Chinese people buy real estate in Vancouver, but it does not mean Chinese people buy the sovereignty of Vancouver. The land is still legally the territory of Canada, Chinese people cannot establish a “Chinese state” because they bought real estate in Vancouver. Therefore, Jews legally buying land in Palestine does not mean it gives them the right to establish a Jewish state on that land.3) Jews earned the right to establish a Jewish state in Israel after it negotiated the Balfour Declaration from Britain.This was a colonial era document. If you think colonial territory agreements should be maintained, then you are against the independence of Korea, Vietnam, India, etc. The British should have never made such promises on the first place, especially considering they made overlapping promises to the Arabs in the McMahon-Hussein Correspondence. A similar argument is that Jews earned the land after winning a war instigated by an Arab coalition. This is right by conquest, which has no longer been recognized by international law since the resolution of WW2.4) Jews made better use of their land than the original Ottoman/Arab landowners. “Israelis like to build, Arabs like to bomb and…” Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, where gay people can have their relationship legally recognized.People bring up these points because they believe Israelis have made “better use” of the land than their Palestinian Arabs counterparts, therefore Jews deserve the land. This is not how sovereignty works. Imperial Japan was famous for using this argument to justify the annexing/colonization of Okinawa/Taiwan/Manchuria/Korea/etc. This was almost universally condemned, and Imperial Japan is nothing more than two mushroom clouds over the ash heap of history. Even if Japan made greater crop yields/repealed some antiquated practices/provided industrial living conditions to these colonies, doesn’t change the fact they were occupying land and people against their will.5) Arabs live much more peaceful and prosperous lives in Israel, compared to life in Palestine. Israel grants equal rights to it’s Arab citizens, many of which are part of the Israeli government.Just because you give equal rights to Palestinian Arabs doesn’t mean you are entitled to their land. By this logic, US can annex even more of Mexico, so long as it offers the Mexicans in the region full US citizenship. It also doesn’t solve the issue that the Arabs cannot truly be equals when a Jewish state occupies a majority Muslim region. If you believe in truly equality, you would not need to enshrine Israel as a “Jewish state,” this is just to hedge against the fact the region of Palestine is majority Arab Muslims.6) Jews were the original inhabitants of the region, Jews have maintained a continuous presence in the region of Israel throughout history.Regardless of who the original inhabitants of the region were, the majority of the region has been inhabited by Arab Muslims for the past few centuries. If you believe being the original inhabitants entitles you to the land forever, does that mean the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand have to return the land to the indigenous population? These indigenous groups were displaced within the past 5 centuries, with some regions still being majority indigenous until the past 2 centuries, whereas Jews did not administer the region for over a millennium. I understand this is a very serious part of your identity, with the name “Palestine” already being a huge scar in your ethnic history, but we cannot undo these tragic events in your history. America is named after an Italian explorer, our capital is named after a colonizer and a slaveowner. The Jews are not the only ones who have historical trauma.7) There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” identity until recently, they were just Arabs. Arabs have 22 countries, why can’t they accept there being one Jewish state?Most serious people are not saying there cannot be a Jewish state. They are merely arguing that you cannot establish a Jewish state over land that is already inhabited by Arabs. Just because Arabs have a lot of land, doesn’t mean you are entitled to some of their land. By this logic, Korea is entitled to some of China’s land, Bangladesh is entitled to some of India’s land, and Mongolia is entitled to some of Russia’s land. It doesn’t matter whether the Arabs considered themselves distinctly Palestinian, they are not Jewish and do not want to be under a Jewish state.8) Israel has always been willing to give concessions for peace, but the Palestinians always reject peace treaties.From the very start, these peace proposals have been favored towards Israel. The 1947 borders gave the Jewish minority sovereignty over the majority of land in the region. Other sore spots include Israel wanting sovereignty over East Jerusalem, and Israel wanting their borders to encompass areas with arable land and water sources. A two state solution is already a large concession for the Palestinans to make, Israel should offer more concessions.9) Israel wants peace, but the Palestinians choose terrorism. Israel has no choice but to make “hard decisions” for its own security. The Arab League/Muslim Brotherhood/Iran all want us blown off the map.Palestinians had no interest in being under a Jewish state, yet it was imposed against their will. It is not unlike the Macabbeans, who revolted against their Seleucid occupiers. You can’t occupy/displace people and then be shocked when they fight back. Israel is not a perfect victim, it exacerbated the problem when it bankrolled extremists groups in Palestine in order to destabilize the opposition. While I acknowledge Israel has legitimate security concerns from hostile neighbors, what did you expect when you displaced Muslims to establish a Jewish state in a region dominated by Muslims?Ideally, the region of Palestine should have been one state, where the rights of the Jewish minority would be enshrined in its constitution. Ultimately, I recognize that Israel has existed for almost 75 years, and at this point the one-state solution is no longer viable. Most of the world has made the right steps in accepting Israel as a member of the world. I wrote this post because I wanted to point out that the framework of the two state solution should have never been used in the first place, and the two state solution is the consequence of the UN’s failure to objectively solve the problem in 1947.via Reddit.comArchived post. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast.

STOP THE GENOCIDE NOW :: X-rays of children show child after child after child directly targeted by #Israel snipers.Stop weapons and funding for war. You are complicit.

Meta Whistleblower Exposes the Censorship on the Platform of Palestinian Contentvia RunJoe @RunJoe24 …
Oct 15 …::” It can not be overstated how important it is to get this information out. Social media giants Meta and X are just as responsible for the g3n0$!d3 as the MSM is. Had the censorship not happened, the pressure would have stopped it long ago.

For decades, Israeli leaders have used dehumanising language to describe Palestinians, to justify Israel’s occupation. Since October 7th, words have become a weapon to legitimise the war on Gaza.But it’s not only dehumanising language against the Palestinians that’s been used. Propaganda and disinformation have also backed up the military offensive on the ground. Palestinians say it’s meant to provide justification for war crimes. Al Jazeera’s Osama Bin Javaid reports.

Norman Finkelstein received his PhD from the Princeton University Politics Department, and is best known for his research on Israel and Palestine. In this episode, Norman and Robinson sit down for a discussion centered around the anniversary of October 7th, and they speak about the immensity of what has happened in the Israel-Palestine region in the time before and since. Norman also appeared on episode 192, where he and Robinson discussed allegations of genocide and apartheid, Hamas and Hezbollah, and connections between the war and the Holocaust. Norman was also featured on episode 218, where he addressed the facts and fictions generated by the Israel-Hamas War. Norman’s most recent book is I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It! Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic Freedom (Sublation Media, 2023).Norman’s Website: https://NormanFinkelstein.com

UN chief António Guterres condemned what he called “the broadening of the Middle East conflict”, declaring “this must stop”.This isn’t the first time Israeli troops have gone into Lebanon, but previous invasions have failed to bring any long term peace.Will it be any different this time?

The resulting war between Israel and Hamas has caused vast destruction in the Gaza Strip and displaced around 90% of Gaza’s population of 2.3 million people, often multiple times.(AP video by Wafaa Shurafa)#gaza #palestinian #israelhamaswar

When political leaders speak of genocide, they repeat a timeworn mantra: “Never again.”Over the past year, for the Palestinians of Gaza, “again” has become reality – mass casualties broadcast almost in real time by its victims.This film is about an alternative version of that reality – the one told by major Western news organisations – and how it has provided cover for Israel’s war on Gaza.Based on interviews with more than a dozen insiders, it lifts the curtain on the inner workings of agenda-setting outlets like CNN, the BBC and The New York Times.

Ilan Pappe shares how he came across historical documents back in 1978 that debunked Zionist myths and set him on his journey to becoming an Israeli dissident.What is going on in Gaza is a ‘genocide’ that is much worse than the Nakba of 1948, and why he thinks Zionism is near its end.

Avraham Stern, leader of a Zionist armed group that fought the British in Palestine, aimed to create a Jewish state.National Jewish hero or radical Zionist paramilitary leader? Avraham Stern was the leader of the Stern Gang, one of the Jewish armed groups that fought the British Mandate in Palestine in the 1930s and early ’40s. This film tells his story through his own son and a range of contemporary historians.It presents both pro- and anti-Zionist sides of a controversial narrative – who Stern was, how he set up and ran the Stern Gang and how he led it in fighting the British administration and Palestinians with the ultimate aim of founding a Jewish state.Some historians believe he may have collaborated with the Nazis and accepted money and weapons in a deal that enabled them to ship large numbers of Jews from Germany to Palestine.Whatever the evidence, this is fascinating insight into a major figure in the Jewish movement that led to the creation of Israel.

Israel’s longstanding tradition of targeted assassinations, and discuss how these actions have not only exacerbated regional tensions but also stained America’s global reputation.The complexities of US foreign policy, the moral and political costs of America’s alliance with Israel, and the corruption within the US political system driven by AIPAC money.Ambassador Chas W. Freeman Jr., a seasoned diplomat and sharp critic of America’s foreign policy, to explore the often overlooked and uncomfortable truths behind the US-Israel relationship.From the heavy toll of America’s unconditional support for Israel to the influence of AIPAC on US politics, Freeman offers a candid and unfiltered analysis of the Middle East conflict and its far-reaching consequences.Freeman doesn’t shy away from addressing the historical roots of Israel, born out of acts of terror, and the uncomfortable reality of a US Congress willing to applaud deceit in exchange for political favor.

Nurit Peled-Elhanan is an Israeli philologist, professor of language and education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, translator, and activist. She is a 2001 co-laureate of the Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought awarded by the European Parliament.In 1997, Nurit’s daughter, Smadar, was killed during the Ben Yehuda street Palestinian suicide attack.We speak today about the silencing of internal critics in Israel, the Israeli education system and the propaganda in place in Israel from a very early age, to the “Where do we go now?”